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Clematis aethusifolia v. latisecta

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Hans J Kuus View Drop Down
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    Posted: 08 Aug 2010 at 6:42pm
Could it be Clematis aethusifolia v. latisecta?
 
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Dear Hans,
 
Thanks for showing the pictures. The pictures indeed seem to show Clematis aethusifolia. Your label reads that the origin is Sichuan and that is within the enourmous range of destribution of Clematis aethusifolia.
 
In the cultivated plant world it seem to be possible to identify Clematis aethusifolia var. aethusifolia and Clematis aethusifolia var. latisecta. But in the wild both forms overlap in distribution and today seems also accepted more as ecological variations. That is the reason that in the botanical plant world, opposite the cultivated plant world, the botanical varieties are not accepted anymore. This means that Clematis aethusifolia var. latisecta is a synonym of Clematis aethusifolia.
 
Your plant does show rather wide leaflets. Your plant seems also to be a young plant and not an adult plant. This means, especially for clematis in the botanical Section Campanella or, when we talk about cultivated plants, clematis belonging to the Campanella Group, that the leaves can vary enourmously, also on one single plant. I have written more about this in the posting about Clematis 'Bells of Emei Shan' in this Forum when I remember correctly.
So, the width of the leaflets is not a stable characteristic to identify a species, subspecies or variety on and this also applies for cultivated species. Other species that are more commonly known belonging to the Campanella Group are, for example; Clematis connata, Clematis rehderiana and Clematis veitchiana .
 
Below you see a scanned leaf of Clematis aethusifolia.
 
I hope this information is of help.
 
Best wishes from Holland,
 
Wim
 
 
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Hans Jorgen,
 
Tomorrow I post a picture of the leaves of my plant.
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  Quote Aidan3 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12 Aug 2010 at 8:30am
Hans Jorgen
 
Did you get this plant from Chen Yi?
 
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The first flower, it have a fine scent.
 
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